11,420.

So real estate commercial, 43,111. Personal, 4821.

Um, state assessed commercial aircraft. Um, total real estate, 505,000. Um, total personal property, 316,241, with a total of 721,252.

Is there any questions on the Adair County side?

Thank you.

All right.

Moving to the Schuyler County side. Um, the real estate is 3,291,369.

Personal property is 2,432,170, and the total is basically 5.7 million.

Um, what's the amount of property tax revenue budgeted for? General is $57,235.39.

The total is the same amount. New construction is $23,010, and that's assessed per...

Let's see, $100 per thousand

evaluation.

Is there any questions on the Schuyler County side?

So with that, I need a motion to approve the tax rate for the 2027 year as presented.

I'll make a motion.

I need a second.

I'll second.

I'm gonna do a roll call vote on that. Keith Nelson, how do you vote?

Rob Small?

Aye.

Deborah March?

Aye.

Ashley is absent.

All in favor?

Aye.

Motion carries. If there's no other discussion, we can ask for a motion to adjourn. I hear it.

I'll make a motion to adjourn.

I'll second.

At 6:04. Perfect.

Thank you, guys.

Then with that, we'll jump into the council meeting that I'll call to order at 6:04, and we'll stand up for the pledge.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Thank you. Roll call.

Ashley is absent for now. If you come tonight, be sure to sign that roll. All right. Everybody should have gotten a copy of the agenda.

I need to, um...

Other than that, I need to, um, add the board of zoning tally from here.

Oh, yeah.

If we could put that in active business number eight.

Two seventy-seven.

Here?

Yeah.

Okay.

Did everyone have a... Everything she wanted?

Got one more.

All right. That's it.

All right. If I could get a motion to accept the amended agenda.

I'll, I'll make that.

Second?

I'll second.

Motion carried. Or all those in favor?

Aye.

Motion carried.

Found?

They all got it, but I think I...

Harry, we get to sign?

All right. Everybody in your agenda packet should have got the minutes of the prior meeting. Did anybody see anything that needed changed on that?

It's all accurate.

Any corrections?

All right. We need a motion and a second.

I'll second that.

All right. All those in favor, say aye.

Aye.

Motion carried. All right. The treasurer's report and paid bills.

You all should have got all the balances.

Yeah.

There's just a few in here, but I did wanna, uh, to bring up something about, um, the Missouri Department of Revenue sent out a paper that said that we can round because of the penny shortage. Um, it suggests we round up or down depending on what's the closest to the five, five cent mark.

Um, and I'm not really sure how that's... the program is gonna work on that, and that is only though if you pay cash

So if you're writing a check or, then it's what it is.

Yeah.

I think Casey's is already doing something like that. Or I've noticed it.

A lot of them are doing that.

But I wanted to bring that up, um, that some people couldn't...

Um, one of the outstanding bills here that I have is for three ninety-seven, and that was for an AC unit and-

Oh, good

... it crashed right before election.

And then Menards.

That's the, that's the-

Part supplies.

That's, no that's-

Oh

... for the, the border around it.

The frame around it? Okay.

The bolts and...

And then USA Blue Book for ninety-five fifty-five, and that is flanges and gaskets for whenever the new UV system comes in to be able to replace those coming out of the super fund.

Do you guys have any questions or anything about what you see in the budget? Or not... In the treasurer's report?

All right. Can I get a motion to accept the treasurer's report and pay bills?

I'll move it.

A little bit.

And a second?

I'll second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

All signed in.

All right. That takes us to the citizens and guests portion. Greg, you were here. What you got going on?

I'm just watching.

Listening in?

If everybody could sign in on the sign-in sheet.

They are.

And sorry, I don't know who you are.

Brian Morrison.

Brian Morrison. Okay, perfect. [coughs]

Glad you could make it.

[laughs]

And then Carrie, Debbie, you guys got anything or just listening in?

We're just here.

Okay.

Sarah, I have you actually on the agenda.

Okay.

I'm here to keep Carrie in line.

[laughing]

I need it.

She thought I was here to entertain you. [laughing]

I'm sure that makes everybody feel better, honey.

[laughing]

I mean...

Let's see.

My maintenance report.

Well, the air conditioner got put in this week. Um, Versus Street got done this week. Greg just asked me about his driveway, where they come off his driveway. It's, you know, about eight thick, and there wasn't nothing we could do. I, I don't know why I couldn't take some of this asphalt we got here and make him-

... a little bit of a easier ramp there.

Less of a lip?

Less of a jump up there.

Okay.

And maybe somebody else may say the same thing. So if you ain't got any problem with that, well, I'll take him up some asphalt or work it in there for him. That'd be all right?

I think it should be. Yeah.

And, uh, down by the senior housing, you know, we, uh... What about moving the sign? The signs are about that far away from the asphalt now. If we move them right over next to the asphalt, put them back in the ground, and maybe buy another sign or two to put along there to try to just try to keep them from parking over there and knocking the edge off into street. Any issues with that? And we're gonna buy these guys a s- a sign for their, uh, no through traffic down there on their, uh, by their property. Any issues about that?

So I'll get with, uh, Janie this week and try to get those signs coming. All right.

Any issues with that? Need to do anything other than that?

So, uh, other than that, I don't have a whole lot. I've had one guy look at the truck bed box over there, and all I've had him look at that. It's for sale.

Are there any other signs, since we're putting an order together around town, that's probably needed-

Well, well-

And where to put them together?

Before we, before I jump on these signs that we just talked about, I wanna make sure there's not some other ones that we need of some sort, you know?

So, uh, I think... I don't think it hurts to put a couple more over there by the senior housing to try to keep them people from knocking that edge off there.

Well, that ditch has moved a lot since they've been parking over there. It's just sloughing off and, you know, there's not much of a ditch there now.

So I think that would be a wise thing to move that, you know, signs up right up next to the asphalt.

Mm-hmm.

And what about the... I asked the sheriff about the speed limit on the new street, you know? He says if it's not marked, it's twenty-five mile an hour. I drove it yesterday to pay attention and, uh, I only see one sign that says fifteen mile an hour right in there by Carolyn Vincent. Uh, should we get some more signs? I don't think anybody would drive fifteen mile an hour down through there, even if we put the signs.

No, 'cause they're coming out of the parking lots at fifteen miles an hour.

But, you know, we-

I also agree with that.

They can just put the North Drake Street down there, and then we'll make it fifteen mile an hour. [laughs]

Well-

Good place is Oak Park Street.

That's true. That's true. So I, I don't know. I'm just-

We're not gonna ordinance enforce her in here. [laughs] We'll get the elicited to the bump out stuff.

Well, it's just something to think about. I don't know if it would do any good, but, you know, there's only one speed limit sign that I see Uh, south of Greg and, and, uh, Benson

Do speed limits, because I know for state and stuff, like that has to be set by statute and stuff like that. Do speed limits in town need to be set by ordinance?

Well, according to the sheriff, he says if they're, if they're-- you can mark them, the city can mark them what you want or what we want. But if they're not marked, twenty-five mile an hour.

And that's per state statute for the towns or something?

I don't know about that.

I wonder if we should then draft an ordinance just to identify speed limits on streets for town, because I don't think I've seen any in the ordinance book. And moving forward, if we get an ordinance enforcer, something that they can enforce too if it's rightfully identified somewhere.

Okay, so that's something about North Locust Street up there is washed terrible.

The road is lower than the ditch, so it's all running right on the road. If you put a rock on, you're wasting your money. It needs to be built up.

I know that'd be another cost, but we need to...

Does it have a culvert there?

Huh?

Does it have a culvert?

Probably not big enough.

This is a gravel road.

A gravel road.

I know.

Down there where, uh-

Up where Brad lives.

Well, uh, Carolyn Benson used to own that brush patch there. She sold that.

Yeah. Sold to Brad.

But-- And even north of there, it's washed out so bad that-

... there's a wire showing along the side of the road there. And I, I asked, uh, Darren Halditch about it. He said that's some kind of a tracer wire, 'cause I-- He said if I cut it, it's no big deal. But, uh, I didn't know what it was, so I asked him about that. So it's washed enough there that that wire's plumb out of the ground. And it's really bad from, uh, you know, south of there plumb up to the corner.

I mean, it needs tons and tons of clay or loads of dirt, and then build it up or get it leveled out where the road is higher than the ditches, and then rock it.

And we ain't got the equipment to do that.

Rob, is that something you think you could talk to the county to see if they-

They would probably do it-

When they have maintainers in the area, they would probably do so.

But I mean, even-

They're good about doing that stuff

... grading's not gonna do much good. It, it needs to be built up.

Right. 'Cause I just don't wanna keep throwing rock on it whenever it's gonna end up in-

You're wasting your money-

Yeah

... if you put any rock on it right now.

So...

Hard to get a ditch out either.

Right. So it, it definitely needs some work. You know, that road doesn't get a lot of traffic from the corner there back up, you know, toward the-- back to the south, but the one going north does get quite a bit of traffic. So I don't know as if it would be high priority, but it's just getting worse and worse, especially with these-

There are a bus that goes through there during school a lot.

Especially, yeah.

Mm-hmm.

It, it, it needs to have something done.

Or, or shot. [laughs]

Yeah.

Yeah, 'cause it's, it's kind of-- It's, it's pretty bad.

It is, it is bad. It's, it's...

Um, well we still got some road tubes that are plugged up around, mostly on Main Street going, going, uh, north. I, I pulled tire through a couple more recently up there, which seemed to help. It's, you know, gonna cure the issue 'cause we don't have good drainage to the north.

But, uh, so just if somebody complains, I go, I go pull a tire through. If they don't complain, I don't bother. So-

So Rob, if you wouldn't mind asking the county if they could-

I'll, I'll talk to Chris.

And, uh...

I was thinking about that problem then.

That's all I can really think of right now. The signs, wanna get them signed and, and move the other signs.

We need to get this asphalt here on odds and ends holes before we, you know, talk about maybe getting another one before winter. Just, I just wanna wait a little bit before we go and jump on that. So other than that, I don't have any big things I need over there that I'm aware of, so I guess that's about it

then.

All right. Um, sewer tech report, uh, Aaron's not here, nor is Gus. But, um,

let's see. Got-- Over the last month, um, Aaron worked on locating and getting the manholes open for the streets that got repaved, so we were able to get into-

Fourteen of them, wasn't it?

Yeah, about fourteen of them. Was able to get into all of those. Um, I think our most recent E. coli testing came back at a decent number. I don't know if it's been because of the rain or something.

Um, I don't quite know how big the, our E.

coli limit is on that, but I think we're-- this last test was in compliance, hopefully.

Um, other than that, I have the UV system update on the agenda, but it's still in production.

Um...

Well, is, is Les in or out? So I know whether to change locks or, or no?

I'm not sure yet. That's post-meeting.

Okay.

Any other questions on the sewer stuff?

All right. So that takes us to number two, the proposed locally rooted growth, land protection, community, energy ordinance packet. Sarah?

Yeah. Sounds like a lot. It's basically, um-

Sarah, what's... I printed out two extra

I'm muted. I'm muted

... Okay, yeah. You guys will have to share. Sorry.

It is maybe rooted in fear of the unknown and me and stepping out ahead of, you know... Like I'm not- I'm seeing so many different things change in the area. What do we really want in the area? Do we want stored, battery storage stuff everywhere, at next door to everybody's house? Do we want all these new frequencies coming into our environment?

We put these windmills up for the East Coast. Is that what they told us when they first came in?

I think I heard all the energy

You know, they want, they needed it-

They told the East Coast

... Yeah. So it's ours. This is, this, this, these lands are the lands that we all live around. Shouldn't we be investing for ourselves rather than sending it on to another area? This, the way this is written, as far as I'm concerned, looks to be that, um...

Sorry, I can write better than I can talk. Um, to protect everyone's property rights, uh, to allow you to go ahead and have a supplemental, uh, energy source to keep your home powered, but it keeps, uh, these big businesses from coming in, using the land, saying they're gonna do one thing, changing the plan mid-stream, and benefiting themselves only. They say, you know, they... It- it's to prevent these farms from coming in.

We have good farm ground. We have fair weather. We have all the seasons.

We should be doing things for our area. We shouldn't be s- A- And, and if we have an excess, go ahead and send it out after we've, we've all got our fill.

So I did find where, um, the city of Kirksville adopted a resolution, which I'm wondering if that's kind of a direction that we can follow until we can get deeper into something like this.

But what is Kirksville really doing?

That's the question. Have, ha- have, have ever- Has everyone been vetted to make sure they haven't signed any gag orders and they're not working for anybody?

So I know the county... Well, from what I've been told by the county is there's no NDAs there, and Mary Macumber said that she hadn't signed any NDAs.

Would they tell you if they did?

Isn't that part of the deal?

You would hope.

Yeah.

You would hope, but

I'm not sure. I did ask the attorney. He hasn't had time to look at it. I really felt kind of bad approaching him.

I mean, even, even Adair County is behind Schuyler County as far as the zoning was concerned for these windmills. So are... Is, is going to Adair County simply because it's more populated the right thing? Or, and I may just spitballing that. I don't know that they are more populated, but I'm gonna guess they are.

I've heard a little more toward Adair County because I do see them the ones going out to be educated on. Yes, Schuyler County has the zoning, but that zoning commission has people that's deceased on it. So that's how wayside that's kind of been, and it, that's gonna take people getting involved to reestablish that.

But they're signing contracts because they're afraid of missing out on money instead of diving down and re-educating the, the community to where we're actually doing good things for ourselves.

We're giving things away because we're afraid of missing out on that dollar, and that's not how we should be living.

Yeah, there wasn't anything-

One of the problems they have down there is they put zoning on the ballot-

Uh-huh

... four times-

Yeah

... and it got voted down.

Right. But they keep playing with it.

If they keep voting it down, the commission doesn't have much control.

That's why it's gone out to the county.

If someone quietly sells a 400-acre piece, they, they can't do anything about it.

Well, this would allow-- This would keep from, you know... They-

... they rent from this guy. They buy from this guy.

They get an agreement. It would keep us from having this within our town because we don't have any science to show that any of this is safe for us to live around.

Six, eight guys in town putting a battery storage facility up, you know. Yeah. There's people in town that, that would take the money if it was offered, you know.

See, and I, I do agree with Green Talk having some kind of like-

Some kind of firewall. Yeah

... some kind of zoning, but with that, that's gonna take people participating to be part of that zoning commission. And I mean, these last two meetings have been incredible for the town, but we've had meetings where nobody shows up, guys. So I mean, I do feel we need a light zoning, 'cause some kind of zoning, I say light zoning because it may not need to be crazy in-depth.

It's gonna have to stay light because people aren't gonna wanna see an in-depth zoning when they go to doing stuff on the top table.

They're gonna come in, and they're gonna woo everybody, and they're gonna pad everybody's pockets with these kind of projects, and we're gonna lose out because these jobs aren't being filled by people here. These are contractors all coming in, like I... That's what I'm afraid of. They sell us one thing, and they give us something completely different, and we don't benefit from it at all At all

These places, they, they prey on areas like this, just like the windmills. Bunch of poor farmers around here are gonna get a check every month.

Hell yeah.

They signed up for it, you know? And same thing-

But the county's got money off the windmills. They could not get a dime off solar-

Right

... because that was-

If they hadn't have-

... forbidden at a legislative level.

If they hadn't have established the zoning-

Power of the lobby

... it wouldn't happen. They got that established some-

Well, see, Adair County got a million dollars for the windmills going up, and they don't have county zoning.

I know, but it's perfectly because they had-

Oh, but that was because Adair County has the, had the use tax. That's how they got their million dollars.

Right. That's where they got it from, and that's all they got.

They still get, they still get property tax money off of them. Most of that goes to your schools.

So I did see where actually an attorney within the law firm that we have hired, since they represent, you know, where these places are going in, they're doing some research too. So I'm hopeful whenever I do get to talk to Nathan about it, that he definitely has more education for us. And I could see if he could participate via Zoom or something.

This is uncharted. This is something totally brand new, and the, whoever the companies are that are operating these things, they know just as much as they know. The, like, it's not in process. Like, it's not installed yet. They don't even know what they're ex- to, gonna expect from these projects that they put up.

They're gonna have, you know, if, if they're having to cool it, we're dealing with water, we're dealing with a closed system-

That's, that's a good point

... because that's more efficient.

There's really not much access to water.

We got a lot of groundwater.

They're gonna go... That-

We got tons of groundwater

... why else have, was the DNR going ahead and surveying all this stuff, you know? The, they wouldn't just do it for fun.

So not that it's being advertised that there is an active water sh- shortage or anything like that, but that helicopter was in Scotland County, in Schuyler County in 2024 doing the same damn thing.

They've been doing it for-

And they-

They've been doing it consistently-

Yeah. We've got a lot of groundwater

... in Scotland County.

But I, I do know whenever that was happening, Schuyler County water, or S- Scotland County Water shut off supplying water to feedlots-

Mm-hmm

... and cattle barns and stuff, just because it was so short.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Schuyler had to do...

They had to change the rules on the ponds and everything else.

Yeah, they did a lot

... and I wonder if Adair County is now gonna follow suit with something like that.

Don't know.

It's just, it's, it, I don't see the, the harm, I mean, if it's not worded right, if something's wrong about it legally, great, but I don't see the harm in trying to implement something rather than just sit here on our hands and wait f- to be used.

No, I, I agree. Something-

Oh, I agree.

I agree.

We do.

100%.

Even if it's not gonna hold water for a while, at least maybe they'll just reconsider and go elsewhere.

Yeah.

Even at that, like, we, we can't draft it to specifically target one thing. But I mean, just from, case in example, another business comes in or a bigger business starts off small and then expands, we have to have something.

Look at the business that we lost in town. It, we gained a lot of jobs, but we don't have a grocery store anymore.

I mean, these big changes happen, and then what do we do? We got Walmart, Aldi's, and Hyvee, right? And then you go up north and, you know, Dollar Generals.

And I mean, some of that falls on me as a citizen because I, I didn't participate back then and ask questions like that.

Right.

So, I mean, definitely having a more active council and more people participating in discussions is gonna help us.

But I do plan on discussing more with Nathan.

His mom just died, and I really felt bad today having-

Yeah

... that conversation. So life happens, so that's definitely gonna take some time. But, um-

So is there a difference between city zoning and county zoning?

As much of a difference as you wanna make it, I guess.

I mean, what do you gotta do to, to get county or city zoning?

I think, so with city zoning, I guess there would be a zoning commission or a zoning board to where we would pull from different areas, and then you guys would, whoever, establish their own-

But that's what, that's what we're talking about here is city, right?

Yeah.

We don't really have-

That's the only thing we have any jurisdiction in.

Right. And do we have any kind of either agricultural or-

We do have some-

... commercial, commercial or non-commercial resident zoning right now at all?

No, there's nothing.

So you could just put a business up in wherever you want.

This is n- not necessarily so much to control what you can and can't do. Are you talking about the same thing-

... or something? Okay.

Well, I mean, like you were saying with battery storage, in order to do, you know, do battery storage, they have, it should be commercial because commercial will fall under different requirements and-

As far as in town, the, the only people that care about commercial, residential is the utility company.

They'll, they'll, they'll deem your property this or that-

Yes

... and you'll pay the rate according to whatever they've decided. And if you disagree, you can ask for an inspection or something, but that's all we've ever had to deal with. Does it have to be a-

You got your neighbor in the house, so there is-

What's the word you're using? Um, zone- zoning, like, that... It has to fall under that other category. Never mind.

Sorry. Thinking out loud. [laughs]

Right now, someone could, like, if Robinson wanted to sell off all his farmland in the city limits to a data center, there's nothing we can do.

And then I think Amish over here, behind George's shop, that's another bigger farm that's within the city limits.

That's also a good reason why you need to have the county involved, because they generally need a lot of ground.

Yeah.

And the, the counties need to be heavily involved in that. You'll, you'll, you'll get farther with them than you will with the city trying to stop it, but we just don't have much.

Mm-hmm.

We definitely don't have the power.

You gotta get everybody to vote for it.

Right.

I mean, it's-

Which Skyler had.

Skyler had it, but just the, the board's almost disbanded. It's half of them is dead. A lot of the board members died.

So I mean, yeah, there's-

It needs, it needs reestablished.

Well, I, I don't know. I, I reached out to Drew at one point in time, so maybe I can send it on to him and see, like, maybe the county would go ahead and-

But it's a fear not to get-

Yeah.

Trying to avoid, but then you would probably end up with the whole year.

Skyler and his buddies coming in.

It's, it's... I don't know. It's whenever it's happening and whenever it's going on, and whether I can get there or not. I'm just... This stuff, I don't know. I've-- I actually lived through a lot of the bad stuff.

Like, they're all on the national maps temporarily until they're going through more stuff, if you wanna look at the-

They're gonna build it.

It's gonna happen. So the thing that you gotta utilize is there's gonna be a lot of tax dollars. What's Reedhof got for tax base? There's none here.

No.

They... If, if they come up here and wanna do it, and you guys oppose it, that's very bad, because you gotta look at what you gain from it.

That's the fear of missing out. They're not our jobs. They won't be our jobs.

But hell, but all-

They're all coming from Texas and South Dakota. You watching all the license plates driving around?

Okay, how many people work on the rig?

Do you work on them?

How many people?

There's probably thirty.

They've got how much? There's ten staff.

Forty, fifty people. Uh, we got the twenty-five that work for us.

It's not, it's not a ton.

Look at the tax base dollars that the county got, and then-

Why don't we... Why don't we do that?

All the money that each one of those guys is drawing from that, where do you think that money goes? They're spending it.

Yeah.

So it's driving the economy. It's, it's helping the whole area.

What businesses is it bringing in, though? Chains?

Corporate? It's not, it's not anything small town. Like, we don't have any new ideas here. So we're just latching on to somebody else's ideas, and these aren't even our ideas. We're just trying to keep up with China.

I mean, to pave your roads, to do your sewer, to do everything. I mean-

So what you're saying, it's o- it's okay to sell out to some of these big companies, and we gotta live next door to all this shit.

Are you saying that's... Would you want one in your backyard?

No, he's not saying that.

I, I'm not saying that.

It's the fear of missing out. It's the, "What are we gonna miss out on?"

You know what I mean? So be it. I mean, that's... You gotta look at the betterment for the whole community. It's not, it's not everything.

And when we're all sick-

The reason why this town-

Then what are we gonna do?

You need some of it.

Yeah. What happens?

You can't be against everything that's gonna bring in revenue.

Well, and, and that's-

I'm not even reading this.

Like, I'm not for, I'm not against. I'm for being educated on all of it, because I think there's, like, two hundred and seventy or so of these data centers already in Missouri.

Yeah.

And I haven't investigated, like, what sizes are they? Because they, they... There's some that sit there since the early '90s.

But I mean, as far as protecting our own, my kids that do call this place home, there needs-

They're not gonna build it right in your town anyway.

Right. There needs to be some kind of like... I, I say like, 'cause I don't know how detailed it needs to be. Some form of zoning to control some aspect of it.

What about a differing goal and we have them prove that it's safe for people to live around and animals to live around and everything else?

That's what CJ was going over last meeting.

Yeah.

You can't stop them, but make them work with you.

You can't stop them, but you can kind of help control what they're doing.

How did he do in Colorado with that?

He said it's, it's, it's operating pretty well. He said it, they haven't had any groundwater issues.

Up north they do.

He didn't say anything about there.

Yeah. I just... I mean, he was, he was active on the planning and zoning in Douglas County, so I mean, he's... I don't know, is he being transparent with everyone as to what his role is?

I don't, I don't know. And I don't even know if they proved that it was fracking caused it.

Well, I know up in, in Cheyenne, that's what caused it.

They, they figured out that's what caused it.

Yes, absolutely, and they've had to cut them off from the sewer system. Anytime you have these sealed loops, then you gotta deal with the corrosion in the pipes, and that stuff's not healthy for us.

I'll give you a good example. We had a whole neighborhood jacked, a wall of sound twenty-four seven. I sit in my house with earplugs on. I have ear infections because I can't sleep with the noise.

Hmm.

I can't get anybody to build, to tell them to build a dirt berm. And they've got tons of dirt they moved over there. Nobody cares.

But all the people living on that street

Your, your standard wife is jacked. You can't open the windows and get fresh air in because it's either the noise or it's the smell-

[laughs]

... coming out of there. And I guarantee you, you may like meat snacks-

No

... but I promise you, you don't wanna breathe it when I have it on.

He just lives right down the street.

And nobody'll do anything. I, I promise you, something needs to be done about it.

Mm-hmm.

And nobody'll listen because they don't live there. It's okay, it's normal.

Well, I mean, saying that nobody will listen is completely unfair because here we are having this conversation.

Well, nobody will do anything about it. See, nobody in America will listen to you and do anything. What's the difference?

It... You want results.

We, we educated on it.

Well, I, I, I've tried to educate for a year and a half. I ended up at the court.

I under-

I understand we are the city now, but-

From the-

I cannot acknowledge... Like, I can't say what-

Prior

... the lab test-

Prior

You're saying that's why something needs to be in place-

I agree 100%

... to protect people.

Well, I'm 100% agree with all of it

... because it's, it hasn't happened-

Yeah

... in my experience.

Yep.

So it's something that we gotta get this established then, because there's a want for it.

Nobody cared.

Yeah.

It's not funny. You live across the road.

It's disgusting.

I, I'm not la- I'm not laughing. Like, I drive through town and I smell meat and cheese and it is like-

And where do you buy those things? Are they for sale anywhere anymore?

Not around here.

Country Market.

WalMart.

Country Market.

It's not Western's brand.

Yeah.

Literally, I don't even think they make Western's brand anymore.

They might. They may be small though.

But I, I think we can all agree something needs to happen. The extent of what can happen, we need to discuss with attorn- attorney and be sure that we're not doing a catch-22 somewhere.

Mm-hmm.

Because we need... You know, I have conversations with Rusty Tarr, and I'm like, "If you ever sell your building uptown, please sell it to someone that's gonna bring some small business to it." Like...

Legally, you can't... The, the real estate doesn't allow for that kind of stuff, but-

Well, well, why? But, no, I, I ask him, like, "Rusty, you've been on the council. You know what type of position we're in. Just, like, if you have that power to think of us before you just go randomly sell it to someone for storage." So...

Remind me that question so that I get a chance to

Give me just a second.

[sighs] I should've brought my wallet.

[laughs] I was just thinking, wonder if they make a sandwich over here at the bank, but that could be a thing.

[sighs] [paper rustles]

Okay.

Uh, as far as litigation with the city, how does a citizen find out what's going on with that? Because it's like a closed session, I understand. How can somebody like me find out what's going on with litigation?

Case what?

The litigation that's ongoing with the city, against the city, that the city's involved in.

Okay, how does a citizen find out what that is, the nature of it, and what's going on? We're not opposed to-

Contact our, contact our legal counsel.

Okay. Who's that? I don't-

Nathan Nicholas.

You got a phone number for him?

Uh, not right off hand, I have to-

Nichols or Nicholas?

Nicholas.

Nicholas, okay.

Where's he out of? Costco?

No, Jefferson City.

Jefferson City. Can you get me his number?

Um, I can get it.

Thank you.

Yeah, we reserve all comments for that.

Otherwise.

[door squeaks] Hello.

Sorry I'm late.

Here.

[sighs] [laughs] Did I tell you about the, the UV light on the sewer system? The last time, the guy came up and he didn't even have the right parts, and he's like, "Oh, it's a totally different system." And it was like they already paid for an inspection, and then he ca- showed up with the wrong parts. It's like, "That fucking bitch shit."

He just wanted the phone number.

Pardon me?

He just wanted the phone number.

Yeah, that's where. There you go.

Lauber Law. Lauber. L-A-U-B-E-R.

Okay, thank you.

Lauber, yeah. That's the firm

All right. Is there any more discussion on the ordinance packet?

All right.

Next is the

storm siren.

We need to, um, decide if we're accepting the b- bid from Blue Valley or LMV Electronics.

Um...

[laughs]

The guy that used to do it, he came in and bid or something, and, and he was like, "Well, I need a thing made for my time no matter what." [laughs] He didn't want to, so I don't know if that one's gonna-

... how that-

Blue Valley was about 30 to 31,000. LMV was 27.

But Blue Valley was a new pole and the whole different system.

I think that makes more sense. We've had nothing but trouble with the other folks. That's a better, better siren too.

And then the difference is split with the fire department for paying the difference of whatever.

I think it's a little greater. I feel Blue Valley.

Well, with that, I need a motion.

I'll make a motion.

I'll second.

What about- The idea of Storm Siren bad.

Wasn't he gonna char- Was... Didn't you have a trouble with the contractor that was gonna charge you for-

That's LMV Electronics.

Ha- Have you found a resolution for that?

I-

We were waiting.

Well, did he not perform work or inspection or something and-

S- And then told me that if he got the bid, then he'd waive our thousand dollar fee. No, I have not talked to him since.

I mean, if he did something, you'd... I mean, we shouldn't have to pay him, but, like-

I think-

Is he gonna send a bill and you're not gonna pay, like we're not gonna pay it type of thing and-

Okay. That's what I'm just hoping we don't run into one of those kind of troubles.

So it could be an extra $500 if you guys need to buy a new siren.

Right.

Okay.

And that's who you guys prefer as well, right?

The, the auditor didn't do that.

Um, well, I'll need a copy of your guys' minutes to where you have the fire department voted on who to use.

And then we'll could attach it to these minutes with who the city decides to use, that way it's all together in one place if you don't mind preparing it. All right, so Rob made a motion to go with Blue Valley, um, Keith and Doug will second. All those in favor say aye.

Motion carries.

All right. Um...

[humming]

Did I cut off the resolution?

Last meeting?

Green City.

That part's what I wanna do.

Yep. All right. So everybody got a copy in your board packet for resolution 2026-8-6. This is a resolution authorizing a one-time sewer credit for completion of the Missouri Department of Natural Resources State Revolving Fund Median Household Income Residential Data Collection form.

Um, whereas, the City of Greentown, Missouri, is participating in the Missouri Department of Natural Resources State Revol- Revolving Fund program, which requires the collection of median household income data from your city residents. Whereas accurate and complete residential data collection is necessary for determining eligibility for SRF financial assistance, including potential grant or loan communities that may reduce costs for municipal wastewater system improvements. Whereas residents participate in the HMI survey is essential to ensuring the City of Greentown receives fair and representative income data for compliance and funding consideration. Whereas the Board of Aldermen desire to encourage timely and complete submissions of the required MO DM- DNR MHI residential data collection form by offering a small incentive to residents.

Whereas the city finds that providing a $10 sewer credit to each residential sewer customer who completes and returns the required MHI form is in the best interest of the community and supports the city's long-term infrastructure and financial planning goals. Now, therefore, it be resolved by the Board of Aldermen of the City of Greentown, Missouri, that one, a $10 sewer credit be applied to the utility account for each residential sewer customer who completes and submits the HMI form by the deadline established by the city clerk, which is August 28th.

The city clerk is authorized to verify completed forms and apply the credit to the next billing cycle following verification. The re- This resolution shall, shall remain in effect solely for the duration of the MO DNR required HMI data collection period, unless extended by further action of the board. The city clerk is directed to provide public notice of this incentive through appropriate communication channels, including mailings, postings, and the city website, if applicable.

Is there any questions on that resolution?

Where the forms at?

Um, we can get you one after the meeting. They are in envelopes ready to go out.

There you go.

So save your stamp, I'd appreciate it.

Awesome.

Um, any more discussion?

So what is this going to do for the city or the citizens?

Um, give you a $10 sewer credit.

Well, I appreciate that, but yeah. [laughs]

So right now, the median household income is uncharacteristically high for the city, because it was done in 2020 with the 2020 census. That was also during COVID. So was everyone truly accounted for, accurate information gathered, or numbers just pressed and done whatever with?

So this helps us get more true, accurate data, which in turn, if it drops the median household income, it'll put us to that threshold to be able to get more grant funding, lower interest rates-

Okay

... in situations like that.

So I think right now we need to be at-

We're collateral for the bank.

What?

We're kinda like collateral for the bank, really, when it all comes down to it. That's what it's gonna benefit when we need to borrow.

Right. Yeah, 'cause we're gonna have to go after bond.

But we wanna supplement that as much as possible with-

Everything

... regional planning.

It would let us get into... Like right now, we, there are grants that we qualify for, like 50/50s and, you know-

Mm-hmm

... real big money, and we would qualify for better grants that would be in our favor.

It's the, um-

But if it goes down-

Do you ever remember filling one out?

The sewer study that we just qualified for the $50,000-

Uh, s- I've never done anything like that

... and our median household, we qualified for that at a 80/20. If our median household income would've been a little bit lower, we would've got that at 100%. So for that grant, all s- the city has to contribute is $12,500.

So all right. Um, so first reading, so the second reading by title, Resolution 2026-8-6, a resolution authorizing a one-time $10 sewer credit for completion of the Missouri Department of Natural Resource State Revolving Fund Median Household Income Residential Data Collection form.

Can I get a motion to accept?

I'll make a motion.

Second for the motion?

I'll second.

All right. I'll go ahead and do a roll call vote. Brown, how do you vote?

Aye.

Keeton, how do you vote?

Shepard, how do you vote?

Aye.

Ashley is absent. All those in favor say aye.

Motion carries. Good job. Thank you, guys.

[gavel pounding] Slowly but surely we'll get there.

All right, next on here is the sidewalk grants. Mary Combs, uh, Missouri Department of Transportation planner, last week I attended, um, regional planning. And with the paved streets, I was thinking about seeing about getting some sidewalk grants to kind of match it to go through there, and this lady is kind of head of that with MoDOT.

And she said to get with Carrie, we need to start applying as soon as possible. But she said it'd be really good to have community involvement and kind of do, put together like a sidewalk plan for places that may take priority over, one place over another. She said if we were to put an application together, like since we just had Marion paved, it going past the senior housing to the park, she said it would score really high in the application process.

So, um...

That point was on this right here.

I think if we put any sidewalks in, something connecting to the park would be beneficial.

Um, are there any citizens that would like to participate on that?

Volunteers. [laughs]

She says a lot of those funds are 80/20, too, so...

Guess I've been there.

[laughs]

I think

wider asphalt and some paint might've been cheaper.

What?

Wider asphalt streets and some paint might've been cheaper.

Like a walk lane down the side and maybe asphalt?

Mm-hmm.

'Cause then you're not having to maintain a sidewalk, you know? Uh, one thing with putting in sidewalks, if you don't coat them, any salt that gets put down on them, they're done. That, that ruins them, you know, so you need to think about coating them. Who's gonna remove the snow off of them in the wintertime? You got the equipment to take the snow off of them?

Kinda adds a lot of headache.

It does. I, I think it would be okay if it didn't get carried away with. Um, Mike, not to throw you under the bus, but I'm thinking like in front of the senior housing and to the park. Like, I don't want it to be so extensive that our maintenance guy couldn't help take care of.

Right.

Well, you know, the state put these in out here along K. I never see anybody walking there on those sidewalks.

Our sidewalks to nowhere?

That's what I call them.

They're-

That's what I told our engineer. I said-

Basically a waste of time and money

... our sidewalks to nowhere, they look good, but they go nowhere.

I put them in front of my house, and people walk on them all the time. I put them in, paid the bill, and they've been there 17 or, what's the year, 2009?

My boy rides his bike on it

... 17 years concrete. They haven't, there ain't no damage. It's all being done what they're doing. They're nice sidewalks, and people walk on them.

Jimmy Stanton's crew dug these out here, and I think Jimmy Stanton does incredible work for concrete sidewalks and stuff.

Good or bad?

He's been good.

Good.

Yeah, good.

They did a good job. Concrete, it lasts. I mean, we're gonna get around with this concrete that's out here will be here forever.

Most of this was sealed when it's put, uh, put down, though. You know, that's-

I never seen it

... that's an extra

Do you salt it much?

I, it's been salted.

I see. Okay. [laughs]

I know it's-

Well, I, I know for a fact-

... been done. It's all-

I've been in Truman over 30 years on the grounds crew down there, and I know all about sidewalks cracking and salt and stuff like that. They have to be, they have to be-

Put seal in 'em

... covered.

You put seal in them, and they will be.

Yeah, but you can go down there and look at mine. They've been there 17 years now, I mean, they will be.

And the only thing that you could've done better is extended it down my way.

[laughs] I went and turned her to the property line.

[laughs]

But I mean, and you can watch people. I mean, they'll walk up the road, walk into the street, and they'll go over and get on the sidewalk. Nobody wants to walk in the street. You know what I mean? Somebody texting on their phone, run over them.

I mean, it's ... Sidewalks are nice for everybody. They'll get ... No matter where they're at, they're, they're, they're nice.

I prefer grass.

When she walks around town, I definitely feel like sidewalks are a better thing, especially if she goes to the park.

Yeah. Stay out of the-

I was actually mowing Martha's yard, and then the property across from Steve March, like, that's been really unmaintained for a long time, so I just took the mower through all that. I think there's only one tree there to potentially worry about getting into the property.

Is there enough room back there?

For a sidewalk. I think they could cut into it.

I was gonna say.

And they put, um-

Put in a little more.

Yeah.

So the one thing that she said to do is to, um ... It will cost a little bit for an eng- I guess an engineer to bid it or something, evaluate it. But she said to be sure that the engineer evaluates it high, because it takes, it's about a 24-month turnaround time to allow for cost changes and stuff like that.

So Jacqueline, would you be interested, Park and Rec, for kinda heading up that and seeing if we could get some community involvement for

sidewalks?

The park would look nicer in the parking lot if that was asphalt.

Yeah.

The parking area of the park.

Asphalt?

Asphalt or concrete or something. It's coming, it's falling apart out by the road.

They still driving heavy trucks in there?

Probably.

I don't, I don't ... I see trash trucks in there occasionally.

Yeah, when they're broke down.

Well, that's the reason.

When they're broke down.

Can we put a sign up for that?

No, there is. That's, it goes back to the sign thing. Maybe we ought to get some, some kind of sign that-

Jilly traced a bit up in Queen City

... put it up.

No trucks. It'll confuse some people with trucks, though.

I mean, there's-

Think they can't deliver down there, and then they'll just use that for an excuse not to go down the road. [laughs]

No, it's just the parking lot.

No, I know.

[laughs]

You know, it, that would look nice, too, if that was all asphalt or concreted or something.

If we're gonna put sidewalks in there, we just as well do that up, too.

But it's ... Yeah.

It's my opinion.

'Cause then the MoDot grant would establish for so much of the, um, the driveway entrance and exits or something like that, so.

Yeah, hopefully we can get a committee together and discuss more of that. Um, next, number six, is Green City use of the roller exchange for street help. Um, Jackie Roberts, it's not Jackie Roberts anymore, Jackie Concannon messaged me. She sits on the council for Green City, and they have everything to redo their streets except for a roller. So they asked about renting it, and I'm like, "Well, how do you do your streets? Like, I'll mention it to the council, but I'd rather see about trading it out for equipment." That way ... I'm guessing they probably have chip and seal equipment, so if they could use their roller, then we use some of their equipment, because we still have streets that could probably do chip and seal.

Definitely.

You reckon? So Mike, how do you feel about letting them use the roller? You got anything against that for the council?

Well, the streets out getting tear it up. [laughs] I don't know how they're gonna get it over there. I guess they got a trailer to put it on or something.

Yeah, or a low boy or something.

You know, as long as I'm not ... I mean, I tend to do more pothole filling in the fall when the weeds and the grass slow down, so between now and cold weather, I'll be using it more than ... I'd rather let them put them in the spring here, but maybe they're just the same, but, you know, maybe they do most of theirs in the fall.

But I don't see no reason why they couldn't use it.

Could we get a motion to-

Give them a timeframe.

I guess.

Do they need like a week or two weeks, a month, or?

Yeah, I'll find out when they need it.

Give them a timeframe so Mike can get it back, so he can still do what he needs to do, too.

Can we get a motion to at least let him use it?

Do we need a motion for that?

I mean, there may be some day we could use some of theirs, so it would work.

Well, that's what I was thinking. If they have the grader more the-

Rather, rather we use some of theirs this year or next year, but if we're gonna kinda trade back and forth

They use it, and they set up a time where they can have it for so long a time. In the long run, it might help us on ours.

That's what I'm thinking, 'cause they obviously have more equipment than we do.

Apparently.

[laughs] They just need a roller.

Um, you guys don't think we need a motion for that?

[laughs]

Okay.

I hope next year for the asphalt, we can do, like, Locust Street or towards the cemetery thorough.

So that, that would be my pick for next year.

Of course, we got a couple of them that's almost rock, too.

Well, I don't wanna do too much around his place till after he gets his place's up.

I, I, I understand that, um, but, you know, the cemetery road, if you pull off Main and, and go west-

It's bad

... I was talking about that.

It's bad.

Yeah. It is.

You know, it looks bad.

About, like, next year, the priorities would be the rest of Fifth Street and the dumps that come up off of to Highway K.

Mm-hmm.

Um, I do think we need to put ... Is it Angela Street there on the south end of town, where the asphalt's crumbling? I think the trash trucks cutting in too close.

We-

You know March, you mean?

What?

March Street? You know, March?

Yeah.

Mm-hmm. I heard that, uh, the line for the-

Yeah, we may need to-

Yeah, that, that entrance right there on Angela is rough on that corner in the back.

We'll see what I can do.

Yeah, I think all the cold patch will do pretty good for the-

Those bigger rock in there or something to help support that, too.

So our next one is a citizen that keeps messaging the city Facebook page and drops a bunch of complaints and threatens to call the health department on us and stuff. The most recent time was whenever the fire department hooked up to the water hydrant, and then the water was too brown for them to take a shower. Um,

I don't know if there's a way, I guess, to get in there to set up an auto-response that-

We don't wanna listen to your BS.

Okay.

Gonna be ... Was, did they put a boiler order out when they hooked up and-

No, number one-

... tell people the water might not be safe?

That's a water district problem.

Yeah.

Not, not a city.

Yeah.

Um, no, something like that, the, a boiler order doesn't need done. But, um, the water department's actually supposed to have a, um-

They used to send texts and everything out, email

... a maintenance plan and hydrant testing and flushing history for the last six years now. The deadline for DNR to get that done was, like, August 28th, 2025. Um, we've never seen one, because we needed it for ISO for the fire department.

So, um, with brown water like that, it's obvious that it's not getting done.

Mm-hmm.

Um, but no, we definitely take the brunt of those complaints.

[laughs]

Um-

Well, I might add there, she's ... We got a fire hydrant behind our place. I know it ain't been flushed. I don't have it here.

I don't know what the solution to that is, other than opening up a can of worms with the water district.

I guess we kind of thought the fire department took care of the hy-

... the water hydrants, because you use them.

But that's not the way, is it?

Yes, it is.

It's responsible. The water department, they, they are responsible.

The ones that, that's been-

So actually, the city of Green Top has been under contract, the most recent contract update was 1993. The city pays Schuyler County Water $80 a month for servicing and maintenance of fire hydrants and fire department use. So over the last 30 years, there's been over $33,000 paid, and I haven't been on the council a long time, but I don't think we've ever asked for $33,000 worth of maintenance, and I don't think we've gotten that either.

Can we stop paying?

It'd be better if we didn't.

I have a lot of can of worms open right now. [laughs]

Yeah. It would be way better to not push that one. I don't ... Can-

I mean, is there some way to push them to say, "You need to be doing this"?

Have we been?

I already have an issue with them. I don't wanna do it right now. It-

Um, can we flush them ourselves?

Call and ask.

Is it typical that the water departments do that in cities around here?

Yes, it's, it's state statute. It's law.

It is? Okay.

Water department gets paid.

Okay.

Once your fire department does it-

Right

... there's actually no reason why we should be responsible for flushing hydrants. We do, we do it quite a bit, but it's not our responsibility.

Well, I just ... If you're p- if it's being paid for, it could be paid-

... to somebody that wants to do it.

In the fire department.

That uses it, that-

We don't main- that-

Yeah, and so that's-

The fee that we pay is for maintenance, water usage and everything

... makes total sense

... which that's why we don't wanna stop paying them, because we do need the water. We don't wanna have to-

Yeah

... complain.

Right.

Um, but if we do flush a hydrant somewhere or whatever, we get, we, we get calls from the water department. They're complaining about it. And if we do it down here in the city somewhere, other people are complaining about us.

Mm-hmm.

It's, uh, it's extremely uncomfortable.

It's a double-edged sword.

Yeah.

And quite honestly, it would be taken care of if they were flushed frequently, right, Aaron?

Yeah. It's starting to look like the end of the line or something real quick.

I mean, it helps. No matter what, you're gonna have a little bit of brown water-

... if they're used, but, um, it wouldn't, it wouldn't be as bad. I mean, we flowed that one for 20 minutes, and the water's still coming out brown.

So that's insane, you know, it's crazy.

You obviously have record of payment to the water department. Do you have record of maintenance and repair and-

Yeah.

Okay.

So actually, it ended up being an issue because the fire department has, has an ISO testing and an ISO rating number-

Mm-hmm

... for your homeowner insurance. And the ISO guy comes and he picks five hydrants within our town to test, and how many fail, Bob?

At least two of them.

Ac- active leaks. And, you know, he wants the maintenance records, this or that, so we go ask the water district for them and-

Yeah.

It's not their responsibility.

Well, and then they're trying to get us as a city to pay for it.

[laughs]

We had to go to a meeting to squash that.

I was there.

Yeah, you were there.

[laughs]

I mean, they, they wanna own everything that they, they're selling it, but they don't wanna own the hydrants that they obviously are a part of the water system.

Last time I got in an argument with them, they threatened to pull them all out.

This was probably four years ago.

Two of them.

They said, "You know, we, we're not gonna, we're not gonna flow, uh, flush them. We're not gonna test them. It's not our responsibility." I said, "It is your responsibility." And we got in a huge argument, and he said, "Well, we'll just pull them out, and there ain't nothing you can do about it."

Well, we argued a whole lot of statutes the other night, not knowing that, um-

That's just that's-

... it's a requirement.

Yeah.

Two questions on Queen City.

What's that?

They're supposed to.

Like, two questions. Are they doing Queen City and just

Yeah, they're doing the same thing.

I don't think they do.

Dennis, the last we heard, the fire hydrant outside Casey's at Queen City does not work.

Yeah.

Well, I can attest to the fire rating that you just give from the fire department. My insurance doubled because of that rating. When they lost their rating, I don't know if that happened to anybody else.

So we worked our tails off to go get that back.

I under- I'm not saying you didn't. But I'm just saying, if the fire hydrants need to be fixed to get the rating back-

Mm-hmm

... then, the, the downside of that is $80 a month, I know it sounds like a lot of money over time-

It's cheap

... but if you flush every hydrant in this town, that won't even cover, that won't even be close to covering it all.

See, and that's why-

And if there's maintenance to be done, that, that dollar amount doesn't, doesn't correspond with this.

Well, right. Right.

Right.

Especially in this day and age, it don't.

Right.

Because there are hydrants that need replaced, and if you're replacing them at $6,000, $7,000 a hydrant, that ain't going very far.

That's when they threatened to take them all out-

You can't replace them

... after that meeting.

Oh, you can't?

I don't, I don't know anybody that will. I mean, you'll spend five, 5,000 on the hydrant and all the stuff to hook it up, and what are you gonna charge to hook into it then?

I don't know. I just know what they charged me. [laughs]

Well, I have a loss in construction because the city wants about five grand to hook two.

Mm-hmm.

I mean, I gotta deal with one of them right now, so 10 grand.

Yeah. Per hydrant.

So the $80 a month is cheap, but at the same time-

And by giving anything.

Well, but maybe you pay a little bit more, and maybe they will. I don't know. I don't know what that solution would be, but $80 is not gonna get it done.

So Robert Heaton, that's gonna be one of you having to go with me because I get ran over like a freight train up there with them.

How are all the other towns in this, that, on that water, on the water department? Like, for s- for the county, how are all the other towns?

It's just Queen City.

It's just Queen City that has hydrants?

They all have their own.

Okay.

By and large, they're out.

Okay.

They fill up their, their own.

But with that, they're also required to have their water op- a water operator and then maintenance allowance-

They got employees

... to take care of themselves and everything.

But it's an income producer for them, so they can do that.

Well, right. But if we were to wanna do that and take over, like, holy cow, the expense.

Yeah. It shouldn't... Yeah.

So is putting in new hydrants and everything else, so.

We'd have to come in and fix all those hydrants that they put up there.

But it may come down to that.

But I mean, if they were willing to gift it to us, I know regional planning said that they offered Schuyler County, they have money for water districts. And Carrie, or Chris Feeney said he was up there, like, three or four months ago telling them, "You know, come work with me. We can work on getting you guys this money," and nobody's been over there to take advantage of it.

But citizens just gave them an $18 million bond, and they're not taking advantage of any free money.

I don't know.

So what are they gonna do with their $18 million bond?

Good question. I asked for a rate impact study sheet, and they couldn't give it to me.

We won't know until it happens.

[laughs]

That's when we'll find out.

That's when we'll find, that's when we'll know.

More than likely.

All right.

Could be new trucks.

Yeah.

Somebody could get a new house.

[laughs]

That situation just puts my blood pressure on fire now.

Yeah, same.

Number eight, that's the one that we amended on here, is to vacate the alley of- This is an ordinance vacating an abandoned east and west alleyway between South Marion Street and South Washington Street, and a north and south alley between East 8th Street and East, East 7th Street, Colorado City in Greentop, Schuyler County, Missouri. Is that right?

Um, whereas, the plat of the City of Greentop, Schuyler County, Missouri, State Tax Commission of Missouri, Roger A. Lucas Tax Assessor map, approved and accepted on or about December 1980, dedicated an east and west alley between South Marion Street and South Washington Street, and a north and south alley between East 8th Street and East 7th Street.

Whereas, the City of Greentop has no need for or plan to use the abandoned running east and west alley between South Marion Street and South Washington St- Street, and a north and south alley between East 8th Street and East 7th Street. Whereas, Missouri Revised Statute 88.673 authorizes a city of fourth class to vacate an alley by ordinance duly passed by the governing body in which the property returning to the lots from which it was taken.

Now therefore, it be ordained by the Board of Aldermen of the City of Greentop, Schuyler and Adair County, Missouri, as follows. Section one, the Board of Aldermen of the City of Greentop hereby deems it explicit and necessary that all right, title, and interest to the east and west alley between South Marion Street and South Washington Street, and a north and south alley between East 8th Street and East 7th Street in Greentop, Schuyler County, Missouri, as legally described and outlined in red... I need to change that because I used yellow. Sorry.

On the attached Exhibit A, be vacated and abandoned in accordance with and under the authority granted to the city by-

I'm trying to think where 7th or 8th Street is

... Missouri Revised Statute 88.673-

Oh, that's where he wants to put those duplexes

... subject to any valid easement of right-of-way established. Section two, that the city shall record instruments that vacation and abandonment of the east and west alley between South Marion Street and South Washington Street, and a north and south alley between East 8th Street and East 7th Street to the current owners of the adjacent property and the property from which the alleyway was taken, in equal portions and accordance with the statutory language.

Section three, that this ordinance shall be in full force and effective from and after the date of its passage approval. Section four, all ordinances or parts thereof in conflict with this ordinance are hereby repealed. Section five, that the city clerk is authorized by this ordinance to correct any errors identified within the ordinance.

Read twice and approved by the Board of Aldermen and Mayor of the City of Greentop, Schuyler and Adair County. It's first reading.

Second reading by title.

An ordinance vacating an abandoned east and west alleyway between South Marion Street and South Washington Street, and a north and south alley between East 8th Street and East 7th Street, Colorado City in Greentop, Schuyler County, Missouri.

Can you repeat that, please?

[laughs]

That was the first and second reading.

[laughs]

All right. Can I get a motion?

I'll make a motion.

I'll second that.

All right. Jack?

It's not as a... I think do they have any-

Roll call vote. Jack, how do you vote?

... alleys, by-alleys?

Keith, how do you vote?

Aye.

Earl Small, how do you vote?

Aye.

All right. Motion carries.

I used to giggle 'cause that property in Olive View had more street on it than I think we own land.

Dennis, do you have something else?

And it was like, whatever. It was like 50 bucks for freaking... Like, in the, the field. Like the-

... you know, like the taxes, and it was always so cheap.

Sorry. Old business. Letters to citizens and the income survey is ready to be distributed. Um, all in envelopes ready to go out after this meeting, August 28th, with... Yeah, deadline of August 23rd. So if everybody could encourage their neighbors to fill it out, that'd be great.

UV, um, is there any other discussion on the old business? With that pretty well in the prior.

Number two, the UV repair update. Don Burr currently said mid to late September, but asked him to do everything they could to move that date up.

Um, it will re- So this UV system's a plug and play, but we have to have the electricity redone out there with a GFI outlet, and then we'll need an electrician to

unwire things.

Disconnect everything, yeah.

Disconnect everything that's been straight wired through there, whenever that comes in. Um, we will keep running E. coli tests past recreational season to be sure everything is in compliance.

And then we can shut it off.

Um, yes. And that's part of my, I mean, like, my update for the violation of it. That's my response is continued testing.

I think we need to get that shelf that we were talking, too, in, in the store.

Yep.

In the, you know, in the off time. Where it's-

And then I would like it to get...

If anybody knows for like old kit, set of kitchen cabinets or something to pick up to put one in there for like PPE equipment and ... stuff like that, anything that may be needed out at the pool again.

Street repair and manhole updates. Aaron, you wanna give anything on that?

Um, well, the manholes, they, uh... So when I talked to them, initially they was supposed to get the rings, and someone's been

[laughs]

Didn't look like it was the best work ever, for sure.

Is that the one with the-

They are all up to, you know, just under level, so. But I think the guy's probably gonna have to go through and at least scrap the insides to even out those gaps. And we've made him come back and, uh, clean them all out, because they left a bunch of debris and stuff in there.

So I think they... I don't know, did they come back and get that last one today or no?

I told them to call you whenever they were on their way. Have they not called you?

No.

I'll ask.

They haven't called. He won't answer my calls or, or messages, so I don't know if he doesn't wanna talk to me or he's ignoring me or what.

They'll be done before check and sign, that's for sure.

Yeah.

[laughs]

Are the blocks gonna hold up?

That sounds like a bad idea.

That's just what I asked. I said, "The best way to do it."

It's not the best way to do it, but it's, it's been done like that before. It's not uncommon.

On, on K they used concrete blocks?

No, Seth.

Okay.

Uh, there is the, I believe there's a sewer under K.

Okay.

It all dead ends at each street, so there's no flow.

How much asphalt got down in?

Uh, some of them had quite a bit. Uh, some of them didn't have much at all. This one over here, I was gonna just open it up and clean it out myself this morning, but then I looked in it and there's, uh, there's a lot. There's probably... So it's a, it's a dead end, so everything equipped up would be after the fact of that manhole, so it's not really gonna plug anything up. So, uh, it's not like a huge timing thing. They need to get here and do it, obviously. But it had, I would guess, probably two and a half to three foot of asphalt dumped in it.

No kidding.

It's almost like they just dumped it in.

[laughs] But...

That's-

So moving forward, we will be raising our own manholes.

And, um, it hasn't been the best experience.

So if anybody ever has-

Yeah

other asphalt companies in the area, I don't know who else is in the area.

[sighs]

Uh, Cottonhead is it. Bucking Up.

Manhole?

Oh, yeah.

[sighs] Next place I see him, I'll have you call your, your e- your business agent and we'll send them some visitors.

[laughs]

All right. Um-

Matter of fact, next time they come back to town-

Any more discussion out here on that?

Are, are they, uh, do you have more work with this company, uh, scheduled for th- this year?

Okay.

No, this was it. I don't think their asphalt job was bad.

Their manhole raising could stand to be improved.

Bed bugs bids, advertising, Mike, you kinda hit on that a little bit. We have one interested party so far.

What's that? I was sitting up front.

The, the bed bugs.

[laughs] Oh.

What did I say? Bed bugs? I don't know. [laughs]

[laughs] No, you lost me-

The bed bugs

... when you took off, so.

Yeah. Advertising, um, it's still out there on the Facebook page, so hopefully people seeing it.

I've had one local guy look at the lot that's contacted me and I showed him the inside and, uh, you know, he didn't say what his intention was or anything about it. So I haven't had a lot of interest in the thing, but-

Maybe it's way too high a bid.

So I know it has on there that we reserve the right to deny all the bids, this and that. Is there, like, a minimum that we-

I don't think so. I, I think it's more on the city-

... what they'll take for it.

It's up to a dollar. I'd hate to see that thing go for a dollar, you know?

Start them off-

[laughs]

So that's still going. Just talk about it and let people know it's happening.

Probably have better luck at the bar-

Um-

... honestly

... ordinance codification work. Um-

Would it do any good out at the lagoon to store stuff in?

I don't know. Just throwing-

Is that a hard question?

I'm just throwing that out there.

Yeah.

A box out at your building. A truck box.

Office.

Office.

I don't know.

I don't know what all we have out there.

Just for like a little storage building or something.

Well, I think they're, it's wooden hurried, right?

Yeah, but it doesn't rain or anything. Although just to-

Just take it to the-

... just level out the spot and set it out there and-

Set it inside the fence and maybe it could be used to put that thing we, what do you call it, out there? The-

UV light

... put it in.

I'm just, just throwing that out there.

It could be secured and everything else.

I mean, I think it's worth at least $1,000, is my opinion.

Probably better than sitting in cabinets.

Yeah. [laughs]

The guy I might call down there that, you know, south of town, they sell those, uh, truck bed boxes and, and see what they get for them down there. I, I don't know.

Used, yeah. Good idea.

How big is this thing? I guess, like, I don't even know.

28 foot long and eight foot wide.

It'd be an office. You know, the-

Almost like a-

... sewer office

... container.

Oh, okay. Yeah, so it's a shipping container south of town. I don't know what they'll get out of this one, but it's right around 3 grand for the small one.

Yeah.

Yeah. So I don't think $1,000 would be out of the line. That one does have a couple places in the floor that... but in general it's in pretty good shape. I don't think it leaks much at all, at all.

Apartment.

Apartment.

It's ours, man. [laughs]

So to the next-

Barely

... we have to go into closed session. Um, ordinance codification work. Uh, we spoke on this a little bit after Jamie and I came back from one of our trainings, and we got a bid on it.

Um, you know, our game plan was to kind of go through and update ordinances a few at a time each meeting, and guess where we've gotten, guys?

Nowhere.

You're right. Only ones that have hit a special interest for us. So, um, is it something you guys wanna revisit? I know our pre-treatment team, we have some ordinances we have to update the stuff. They're kind of asking,

you know, about chaptering, stuff like that.

Um-

When does our trash co- contract end?

August 2027.

Ew.

I know.

Well, is there a way to put... If you wanna redo the ordinances, do you have to do them in order, or is there a way that you can prioritize what needs to be done first?

Well, I think we kinda have prioritized the ones that have needed done first and added some ordinances and updated the ones needing updated.

But there's some current ordinances that are quite frankly against the law.

So the one thing about the, if we send it off to people to have codified, then they're double-checking everything with statutes and everything on that. We gotta get an ordinance enforcer. If we could codify, they put it in a form to where everything's available online too.

So easier to navigate. It's more like, Yolridge has them. Like City Marceline has them like this, but there's a price tag with it. Queen City just done theirs, and it was what? 10 to 15,000.

So I mean, it's, it's not cheap, but having the ordinances in the form that we have them costs time. It obviously don't cost the city a whole lot of money, because nobody makes a whole lot of money that has to go through them.

But it definitely costs time.

Would it be well worth the 10,000, 15 to have?

I, that's for the board to decide.

That's what I'm saying. Would it be?

Well, didn't, didn't the last bid come back-

I've only got one bid, and there's multiple codification places. But I, I feel they're probably gonna be comparable, and I'll, I can... I'll get more bids, yes, but...

And so what do they do? Come in and redo them all for you? Put them in the computer for you? What do they do?

Right.

Um,

oh, it's so much easier just to show online. I'll send you the, a link to look up, like how the city of Kirksville has theirs. So, like, if you wanted to look up anything to do with the trash, like-

Mm-hmm

... it's all online. You have a search engine, type up trash in it, brings up everything that trash is associated with.

Okay.

And, like, sunshine request, people can go in there and they can see what our ordinances are. 'Cause, like, for Sarah, it'd be so easy if we had stuff online-

[coughs]

... she could just pull up what ordinances [laughs] we had to look at.

So what you were asking about, Debbie, was like what do they have to do to, to implement it?

Yes.

Good question.

But a lot of it is they'll try to find, go through and find the things that are unconstitutional, things that shouldn't even be in. There's stuff in there that's not, that has no bearing-

... on today's society. It's just some of that stuff needs to go.

From those 50 years ago.

Yeah, I mean, some of it's just crazy. Some old, old, old stuff.

So you could just have a bonfire in the middle of the street and just throw those ordinances in there.

After the classification is done.

Well, I'm assuming they would put that together in a list of stuff that we would have to approve-

Like in chapters

... in a meeting-

Yes

... to eliminate those from-

So what I'm saying, somebody would come in and do this for you-

... is what I'm asking.

Right.

At this-

Instead of all-

We send them everything-

At this price tag.

So actually what we had when it, when at that conference was Janie's scan a lot, but not all, not everything, on a flash drive. And we handed this lady a flash drive, and she downloaded it to her computer, and that's how she got the basis bid for us.

But then there's like, you send it off to 'em, all your new stuff within, like, every six months or something, and then they'll look through it, update it, and then put it out there where it needs to be.

It takes a while for them to do it. I, one of the city clerks told me it takes about a year to get it done. I don't know if that's true or not.

Do they, do they-

So they're building the website that-

That's-

For the city

... for the city-

That don't make, yeah

... that suits you or suits our community.

Yeah.

So do we contact them to do updates and add, add ordinances at that point? And what are, we need to find out what that costs.

Yeah, what would the cost be on that?

I think, I think-

To be determined. [laughs]

I think it may be-

Always

Like everything else. [laughs]

And that's required.

And that's required.

I guess if we put so much-

But aren't, aren't you just paying them when you need to, to add stuff?

Right. No, because-

I don't know that you'd have a lot of maintenance unless you're adding ordinances.

Well, laws change. Anytime the law changes-

Right

... th- an ordinance may need to be changed.

Right. Right.

Yeah.

But you may not have one at all for a year.

Right, right.

You could, you could just write them a check if you don't need it.

Right, right. I, I don't, I'm not sure.

As long as they let you kinda pick and choose when you do that, it wouldn't be that big a deal. But if you're required to basically pay them $100 a month just to have access to possibly do it ...

Yeah.

So, um, model code consists of seven titles, so seven books. Um, codification of additional ordinances, editorial work and proofreading, editorial and legal analysis, code review platform allows easy access to the project documents and explicit decision-making, identification of duplic- duplications, conflicts, inconsistencies. So it's looking at all that debris, all the ordinances.

It'll help clean up our ordinances is what yeah.

Mm-hmm. Practical recommendations and suggestions, interactive analysis of creation of new codes or printed code volumes and findings, ongoing supplementation, annual statutory updates for the first year, premium e-Code 360, um, total, an e-Code 360 search app, total investment $9,795 with options for standard e-Code and light e-Code 360.

And that was just from general code. There's like muni code and other stuff to get bids from.

But it's the way of the future.

If we don't get on board now, the administration-

Well, it makes fact, it's faster to do-

Behind us or after us

... paperwork and stuff for DNR and things like that.

It would make things a lot easier, yes.

'Cause they're always needing that stuff.

And the residents could look it all up anytime they want to.

Yeah, I feel like that's been a problem over the years. You know, people's been told that you're breaking an ordinance, and I've been told that a million times, and I've never once been showed the ordinance that I ever broke. And I've even been drug to court and won in court over, and never got showed the ordinance.

[laughs]

And no way of ever looking it up, so you know, that's, that, that would be my piece of advice to you is-

Yeah, I think if you're gonna get on board now, that it would be more difficult later.

Well, it, it'll be-

It's gonna be more, there's gonna be a bigger price tag later right now.

10,000 now, it'll be 15,000 later.

Right. That's what I'm saying. It-

I know it's a lot of money. I know rumors around town is I'm spending money-

You're living in a new house

... recklessly.

You're living in a big house.

Listen. [laughs]

Thought the mayor would live in a nicer house. Yeah, me too. [laughs]

I need a new car.

But I think for the citizens and for the work that gets done up here,

I think this town has went downhill since it just went to one employee up here, because everything that goes on up here, I know we're a small town, is still a lot for one person. And anything to streamline or simplify, I feel is in the benefit of the community and all of us sitting at this table.

Yeah, you guys gotta consider your time.

Yeah, you guys, I mean, it's not our decision.

But I mean, we still like your guys' input because, not that it's you guys, but it's other citizens around town saying that we're s- spending money recklessly.

We are citizens of Greentop too.

So, yeah.

It takes money to make money.

Well, the reason you're spending it now is 'cause it hasn't been sp- spent right in the past.

Right.

True.

A lot of things been, cans been kicked down the road for a long time.

It's why we're here.

This being one of them.

So I say get a couple bids on it, and then you guys decide what you wanna do.

I think that's a good idea.

I will thank you guys for that conversation.

Well, and I think ha- having access to it by all residents pretty much anytime they want, if you got internet access-

... it, that's a, a big deal.

Well, and it's gonna be a matter of time, because our binder's are already busting at the seams that we're packing two binders.

Oh, I know. I know what you mean. Yeah.

Okay, yeah. So-

I mean, you'll probably need a data center out here.

Listen. [laughs]

[laughs]

I don't care anymore.

Right inside the door.

There's the door. [laughs]

All right, next on the thing is, um, water district meeting. I am not going to the next water district meeting. I will attend the one following the conversation that our attorney has with theirs, and that hasn't happened yet, so...

That's, that's a good move I think, too.

11's the one that you're gonna go to?

Not August 11th.

The one after that. [laughs]

[laughs]

What days are they on?

Usually second Tuesday or Monday. What's the 11th on? It's on a Tuesday.

Tuesday. I also have- So second Tuesday of each month? Yeah. And I won't attend the 11th because we have a meeting.

Who's that at?

Queen City.

The 11th?

The 11th.

7:00?

7:00.

7:00.

Yeah.

Meet your guys down at 11?

I might.

What happened with your situation with the water meters?

Um, at the meeting he went up. Do you wanna tell?

They, uh, just assessed, assessed and fees during that extra hookup.

Yeah.

Similar to what Herschel does.

Did you know I got a copy of those meeting minutes and they did not write in their meeting minutes what they agreed to with you?

Really?

They, they wro-

Yeah, it wasn't in there, was it?

They wrote that they would contact you tomorrow and let you know.

Yeah, they, I mean, they did. They called me.

They did, but they also let you know that night. They didn't write that in the meeting.

Uh-huh.

So you just have one meter?

One meter.

Mm-hmm.

But I'm using, you know, my, my water-

Your water bill's 40-

My water bill-

... my water bill's 47.

That's what we were trying to figure out. Who wants us to have so many meters?

You guys-

You know, and they're like, "Hey, you got three electric meters."

You guys-

Okay, cool

... here was, here was the bottom line. Their, their-

It was stupid

... one of their complaints was is who put it in, how it was done. I said, "Well, your town and commission would put it in."

[laughs]

And I said, "It was done within any spec of any town, any city." Uh, everything's a one-inch line, you know. I'm not cutting anybody down.

Right.

But the bottom line boiled down to I, I got a $47 a month water bill.

Okay.

It-

I'm not using shit, you know? And their problem with it was was my Airbnb.

I was, I was so confused by that.

Yeah.

It was [laughs] fucking-

Well, I mean, it's like I told them, I, I said on, on my side it's, you know, on my side of the meter you guys don't do a damn thing for, so why can't I tap my own water on?

Right. And then let, if you have a water issue then you'll say, "Hey, I need another meter. I don't have any pressure."

Yeah.

If you don't-

Yeah, I have no, no water pressure.

And you guys, some of that may stem from us and, like, we apologize, but it's like you have to open little things-

Well, the pro- the problem that I used to-

Mm-hmm

... to, to have to deal with with the city here was I kept, the, you guys kept wanting to charge me for more sewer bills for one meter.

Martha used to-

... be fun to deal with

... try, try doing that to me all the time. I'd get, I'd get 100 and some dollar, uh, sewer bill and she'd say, "Well, you're renting your place," and it ain't none, it's nobody's business what I do with my place, you know? But the bottom line was it's me and the wife and my son living on the whole property, you know?

That number's based on water usage alone.

Exactly. And, and that's the thing, you know? Uh-

Well, she couldn't do that without council having a discussion.

Steve-

... Steve March had to call her so many times and tell her, "You can't do that."

I don't know.

There you go.

"We got one water-

... we got one water meter. You can't charge me for more than one sewer bill."

Well, I mean, they're upset with us because we put in a right of way easement. They're kind of upset, they've been upset at the fire department for stops, so I mean-

We're trying to hold them accountable for damaging roads.

Yeah.

Because we're not gonna have any roads if we let them just-

We don't have the revenue to always fix them

... tear them up.

I mean, we're hopeful with our city use tax that just passed, thank goodness. That's what we wanna allocate a bunch of that to, but, you know, before-

You gotta have someone to protect it.

Yeah.

Not many towns you can go into where you can just start ripping the roads up.

And then walk away with a rock.

Right.

And they really don't like it, but, you know.

All right.

We don't have the council to-

I don't see them doing it to Q- Queen City either.

Yeah.

We don't have the cases in the lower

Is there any more discussion on that? We do have to go into closed session. Uh, Brian is gonna stay for closed session and Aaron, please stay for closed session. But other than that, any more discussion?

Thank you, guys.

Nope.

Thank you, guys.

Thanks for coming, guys.

Yep.

We appreciate that.

Thank you. Thank you.

[sighs]

Thank you, Mayor.

Do I have anybody at the home?

Out here on the gravel road past the new tractor trailer.

Oh. [sighs]

In the basement, check those on.